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5/22/2015
Skaneateles 5/20 PM, 5/22 and Otisco Lake 5/21 PM

This fishing and guiding binge I've been on will wind up with this weekend's Derby on Seneca Lake.  I'll be fishing it again with my buddy Jarrod and we'll try to repeat as winners and if nothing else, have a lot of fun, get some lakers for the smoker and maybe cash a check or two.   Report will be coming on Tuesday!  Here's the breakdown from the past 3 days.

5/20 PM on Skaneateles:  Guided Kevin with his girlfriend Laurie tagging along for the scenery.  She didn't fish.   Kevin originally wanted to fly-fish pike, but the conditions and wind forecast weren't good.  We did our first trip together back in 2006 or so on Skaneateles Lake.  We had great "catching" back then, but brutal "fishing" - with rain, wind, fog and air temps in the 40s.   Today, we had wind and cool temps.   

Kevin had some hits fly-fishing but was a little rusty on the casting.  Things came back throughout the day.   He threw a tube jig and managed to catch some solid perch and if I remember right, a bass or two.   Water temps were good for trout fishing.

5/21 PM on Otisco Lake:  We decided to give Otisco a try for bass and perhaps a Tiger on the fly.   The water was really murky and downright muddy in areas.  He had a few hits on the flies, but they didn't seem like large fish.  Some anglers were doing well deadsticking Senkos near shoreline cover, but Kevin wasn't up for that.  He took some casts with a tube jig and landed a few small bass.   He had some tackle he'd brought and did some casting for muskies.  We worked the causeway and a few other areas for awhile without anything to show.  He insisted I fish a bit so I casted for around 1/2 hour.  I had a hard hit on a spoon and figured it was a Tiger, but nope - it was a surprisingly hard fighting walleye around 21" long and probably 4lbs (it was fat.)  That fed me for two days.

5/22 Skaneateles Lake:   David called me a few weeks back and booked today looking for some action, "I just want to catch some fish" is what he said.  So that's what we set out to do and Skaneateles Lake didn't disappoint.   Fishing was exceptional today.   We started by working a windblown stretch for bass.   Dave was getting hits every two to four casts. He landed a bunch of smallmouths (maybe a dozen or more) including a 20"er and a few around 16" or 17".   Most were 13" to 15".   He also nailed a decent number of perch.   Further down the lake he missed/lost a rainbow and a couple salmon.   He DID land a gorgeous wild brown trout around 20"+.   He also landed a big pickerel and more smallmouths.   We had a lot of action all day long, including some grabs from trout/salmon and bass after the wind really was flying. Fish all came on jigs.   Fly casting for trout is still possible here on the right day.  The smallmouth action is superb.

5/19/2015
Cayuga Lake out of Long Point 5/19 AM

Well, it's back to the tough bite again.  Guided Pat and Frank for 1/2 day in the morning starting around 8:15 am.  We put in a long day.   The bite was very tough with no noticeable concentrations of fish.  Pat had two good grabs, but it wasn't to be. That's the way it goes.  Water was muddy throughout the mid-portions of the lake from Long Point north to Levanna and Dean's Cove down to Sheldrake.  Working the murky water was probably the way to go (and where we had our hits.)   Fish are moving shallow along with bait.   From here on in, I expect to see decent laker fishing in less than 100 FOW and in water as shallow as 25' or 30'.  Windy days will bring fish even shallower (as will lowlight conditions.)   We had a good time on the water.

Thus far this season I've had more tough trips already than probably some of my previous years COMBINED!   It's been a real challenge.   But the laker fishing on last Thursday was some of the best I've ever seen in terms of BIG FISH.   So it's been a yin-yangy type of year.  That's what keeps it from getting boring.  It's always changing.

5/18/2015
Seneca Lake out of Geneva 5/18 am

Got out with Julius and Tom for a 1/2 day trip (targeting lake trout,) which ended up getting cut off by an hour or so due to incoming thunderstorms.   The fish are definitely on the move and despite the very hot bite of the past week, there's a chance the derby may feature more of a conventional, rather than hot bite.  We shall see.  Fish aren't as bunched up as they were, at least from what I saw.  Or at least they weren't where they previously were, which is more likely the case.  But with 47 degree water on the surface, lakers are comfortable everywhere from 10 FOW out to 100 and deeper, on the bottom, suspended and top.  

Tom wound up with the hot hand landing three solid lakers.  Fish were hitting well.  We talked to two other groups (boats) and they didn't catch any.  Some of it may be technique or location.  I won't likely be back on Seneca until the derby.  

 

5/17/2015
Reports 5/14 - 5/17

In eleven years of guiding this has been my busiest May to date.   I'm on the water virtually every day, due largely to the harsh winter and slow fishing in April.   Angling is generally good to excellent in the region and the mixed bag fishing that can be had on nearly all the lakes is really a lot of fun.   It's a great feeling setting the hook and not knowing what the species is on the end of the line.   Due to my busy schedule, I'm keeping these reports concise.   Here's the breakdown:

5/14 Seneca Lake out of Geneva AM Trip:   Guided Pat and Chuck for a 1/2 day.  The fishing was excellent with 6 or 7 solid lakers landed if my memory serves me correctly. The fish are all running large and most are wild.  There are fish both deep and shallow on Seneca Lake but the majority are deep. Flatliners reported landing some salmon and a pike on the lake's north end during the past week.

PM Trip:  Guided the Hermans for the afternoon.  After our tough trip a week or two ago, it was great to get the rods bent.  They managed 15 solid lakers!  And Eleonore landed a 31" beauty.  Nearly every trip on Seneca Lake for lakers over the past week has produced derby "board worthy" lunkers!   Solid 10 to 11lb+ wild fish stuffed with bait.  Seneca is living up to its reputation and Geneva remains the LAKE TROUT CAPITAL OF THE WORLD!!! We have released unharmed the majority of large lakers.  

5/15 Skaneateles Lake:   Guided Jerrit for a 1/2 day AM then I fished with my friend Anthony afterwards.   We had a fun day from start to finish.   The AM fishing was a little tough, but after a few hours the fish started hitting.  Jerrit did a good job with the jig fishing and landed a couple lake trout, a rock bass and a handful of beautiful jumbo perch up to 1lb 6oz!   Those fish made the day!  Others were missed and dropped. The lake is high due to nearly 6" of rain that fell in the region during storms the past week. Water temps shot up and a lot of bass will be moving up.  Lakers are in shallow.

Our PM fishing was also lot of fun.  We set up primarily for perch but Anthony landed a nice rainbow around 18" or so.  We landed 5 lakers, a bunch of mostly small perch (though we caught a few jumbos,) around 15 smallmouths to 18" (most were small,) and a pickerel. The afternoon/evening bite was definitely hotter than the AM fishing and we were able to fish more areas. Surface temps were 47 degrees.

5/16 Seneca Lake out of Geneva AM:  Guided David and Bill in the AM.  I knew right where to go and the guys hammered lakers up to around 31"!  Great morning of fishing and not much else to say.  Good guys and fun day.  Most of our action has been from 140' to 160'.

PM Trip:  Guided Michael for the afternoon trip.   He tried Clute Park in the AM and managed a 26" salmon that weighed 7lbs 10oz!  That's a PIG!  Back in the early 2000s my best salmon were 26" fish out of Cayuga that would typically weigh 6lbs.   These fish are in much better condition and Cayuga's in the old days weren't bad!  FYI:  Lake Ontario's trout and salmon are on the thin side this year.  Seneca is producing FOOTBALLS!  We got Michael a few lakers for the smoker and he nailed one around 31" that we released.   Small lampreys are common on Seneca Lake this year, but the fish have looked good.   We looked around for pike and fished pretty hard but didn't have any luck.  Conditions weren't great.

5/17 AM  Seneca out of Watkins:  Guided Michael again and we hoped for pike and maybe more salmon/browns.  It wasn't to be.  The fog was brutal in the AM for most of the trip and the lake was as flat as glass.  Miserable conditions that I usually won't guide for most species, but Mike knew what we'd be up against and we gave it a great try.  The large numbers of lakers have moved up the lake in all likelihood.  We saw a few salmon and pike, but not many.  If we'd had better conditions, I think we would've scored.  Michael is a superb angler and one of the best I've guided.    

 

 

 

 

5/12/2015
Cayuga Lake out of Myers 5/11 + Seneca Lake out of Geneva 5/12 AM

Wow!  Back to back solid trips.  It's been awhile since I've been able to string together some consistently good fishing.  Let's hope the trend continues.  As I guide, I feel at the top of my game.  Hindsight is always 20/20, but things feel good.  The variable is always Mother Nature. Here's the breakdown:

5/11 Cayuga Lake out of Myers:  Guided Dean and Scott, who've been joining me on an almost annual basis since the crazy days of the Owasco "Lake trout overload" back around 2005/2007.   We always have a blast onboard whether catching fish or not, and fortunately usually we do well.  

Thunderstorms and heavy, steady rain were a game changer on the night of the 10th and 11th.  Salmon Creek was incredibly muddy yet Ithaca tribs were running fairly clear comparatively.   We tried some pike fishing with slow results.  Dean had a hit but that was about it.  Conditions were fairly good, although not great.   

We changed up to casting for salmon and worked a long stretch of water.  It felt like the guys were just washing lures for awhile, but some hits and follows from Landlocked salmon and perhaps a brown or two kept us focused.  A few fish were momentarily dropped and we had a couple follows from some beauties.   We finally managed to land some nice fish - an 18", 19.5", 21" and 22" salmon if I remember right.  We kept the middle sized fish and let the small one and big one go.  

Thunderstorms with some serious lightning rolled in north of us and we wrapped up a bit early. Any time we can nail some solid landlockeds casting is a good day!   Special thanks go to my friend Todd for a few recent trolling reports that helped us quite a bit.

5/12 Seneca Lake out of Geneva:   Well I knew it would happen - the mega numbers of lakers on the northern portion of Seneca Lake would start to turn on, and it did.  My buddy Mike hit them pretty good up here yesterday, landing some very solid fish.  My 3rd annual half day trip with Jim and Andrew proved that this bite is getting consistent (at least up to the front that's rolling in as I type this!)   We had a somewhat slow start with 2 fish lost near the net and one other one dropped.  Technical difficulties.  

After a couple hours the bite really picked up and the guys landed a couple doubles. One SOLID 31"+ laker that pulled the scale down to 11lbs 7oz was landed by Jim, who wanted me to look at his drag because he was concerned that he couldn't just "reel in the fish" like he could the others.  Funny how that happens when the fish turns out to be a trophy sized laker! I can't say how many times some of my clients hook big fish and are completely unaware of just how big they are.  Big fish just can't be cranked in like a bluegill unless you have tuna gear and you want to rip the hook out of their mouth.  I use 7' Medium Heavy rods for the deep fishing and I think they're perfect.  All in all a great day and one we'll all remember for a long time.   The fish are feeding heavily and in great condition for their length.  Best depths were around 120' to 140'.  We kept all the lakers today.  

5/10/2015
Owasco Lake 5/9 + Seneca Lake out of Watkins 5/10

Did back to back full day trips, with more to come.  The past two days have had something in common - tough bites.  Working hard and having a little luck will put fish in the boat, but the weather played havoc with us today.  Even Keuka Lake has been tough this year! That's uncommon.   Here's the shakedown on the past two days:

5/9 Owasco Lake out of South Shore Marina:   Guided Florian for the full day. I actually taught him how to fish with a laker jigging trip maybe 7 or 8 years ago.  He doesn't get out much and we had some "rust" to shake off on this trip.   He was hoping for pike and trout. I thought that Owasco Lake would offer the best chances for him on both.   Pike action was slow on the south end to start for us.  It's been up and down this past week from what I've heard.   We also checked areas for trout with no luck.  A fair number of boats were out and that did prevent us from hitting some places I like.

About halfway up the lake Florian had a pike come close to hitting his spoon - it was right behind it.   No other grabs.  The north end of the lake was also crowded with four boats on Martens Point.  

We worked down the lake fishing hard.  Over 7 hours rolled by with no fish in the boat and no hookups.  Maybe a hit or two.   On the south end I had Florian work the warm murky water and he hooked and landed a solid pike around 26" on a spoon.   We periodically checked on trout.  Right before we called it a (long) day, Florian jigged up a very nice laker, probably also 26".   We kept both fish and they were full of alewives.  The lakers we marked were for the most part suspended over deep water.  Like roughly down 50' over 130' to 150'.   Not an easy day, but persistance paid off!

5/10 Seneca Lake out of Watkins Glen:  Guided Mark I. for an abbreviated full day.   He's one of my best clients and we've shared a lot of memorable days on the water together.  Today was enjoyable, but not productive.   We worked a lot of areas for salmon with fly-fishing gear. Mark had a grab near the canal and that was it.   We worked up the lake past Glenora and Peach Orchard with nothing to show.  We planned on setting up for pike late in the day, but incoming thunderstorms put a stop to that.   Mark's an excellent angler and I felt we would've had some decent pike action, but it was not to be with the dangerous storms threatening to move through.   Water around the canal was up to the low 60s.  Most of the lake is around 39 to 40 degrees.   There's water around some bays and creek mouths in the low to mid-40s.   

5/8/2015
Cayuga Lake out of Long Point 5/8

Guided a full day with James, Mark and Pat starting around 8 am.   There are fairly staggering numbers of lake trout in the 130' to 150' range.  Baitfish are moving up.  The bite was slow for us to start, despite the heavy numbers of fish, but in the early PM the fishing improved.  The guys landed 6 solid trout, including 2 around the 27" mark.  A few were missed/dropped too, as the guys learned the technique.   We had one small lamprey come up on a trout, but overall the fish were gorgeous - as clean as they come.   One fish was wild.

We kept them all today and I was looking forward to seeing what they'd been eating.   It was kind of surprising to see that they were all stuffed with the usual alewives.  We had one or two gobies in the entire lot of fish.  No smelt.   This seems to suggest that the lakers have a strong preference for alewives.   As many of you probably know, there was a large goby die-off in Cayuga Lake late this winter or early this spring.  Dead gobies litter the bottom in the shallows around Aurora and Long Point.  I'm sure they're all over the entire lake, but those are the places we looked at. We also saw some healthy ones, but either overpopulation or something possibly related to the heavy winter (or some other factor) wiped many of them out.

Some bluegills were in at the Long Point Marina.  Apart from that, we didn't see any panfish shallow.  If you want those, up north would be the place to go, though with this streak of July temps panfish should be moving in just about everywhere shortly.   Funny though, James did spot one sunfish just under the surface in around 140' FOW.  Pretty amazing! 

5/5/2015
Otisco Lake 5/4 + 5/5

Got out with Bobberman Perry and his pal Dave for two full days of Tiger Musky fishing. Perry and Dave used to do Seneca Lake trips regularly with me, but the musky fishing has been so productive on Otisco Lake that that's where they want to fish most of the time these days. This is the earliest (in the season) Tiger trip I've ever done with Perry.  For those of you new to these reports, Perry and Dave bring their own bait, outfits and know-how with them and I more or less provide the boat and occasional suggestions.  

Fishing was good for us on Monday.  The guys had some giant golden shiners and it was great not being bothered by non-target species.   We probably had 5 good hits, with 2 fish landed.  The first was a solid 28 1/2"er and the second was a very solid 35" thick musky. Great fight on the 35"er and I was stoked to put my new giant Musky net to use.   It's a hassle to have onboard, but it makes netting big fish a cinch.

I get some inquiries for musky trips, but it's not a big part of my guiding.  After last year's 46" Tiger, I decided that I needed to get the proper equipment to handle these fish safely and effectively.   I can't have a trophy musky jumping out of the net.

After putting all my gear away Monday, I took some casts from shore and was quickly rewarded with 3 nice perch in the 9" to 10" range, a solid smallmouth and a largemouth.   A lot of fun could be had here casting around the shoreline of the lake with some panfish jigs.

Tuesday's fishing was tough.  The front that came through was very mild.  Reports over the weekend from Otisco Lake Marine was that the fishing was tough.  I felt we got lucky on Monday.   But we tried a few different areas Tuesday without a single hit.

Either way, we had beautiful days on the water with amenable temperatures and no rain. NY State's pure strain musky season now opens on June 1st.  I've never been a huge fan of fishing Waneta Lake in the summer due to all the camps that surround it, but I may go out and give it a shot with some casting gear and maybe even the fly-rods sometimes in June. If I like what I see, I may do a couple trips there.  I've been asked before to do some.   Funny, I haven't fished it once since landing that 50"er a couple falls ago.  Time sure flies.

5/3/2015
Seneca Lake out of Watkins Glen 5/3 AM

Guided the Hermans today for a 1/2 day starting around 8:30 am.  I wanted to go for an earlier start, but they have a long drive up, so we went a bit later.  I don't think it hurt us today - we had some nice winds out of the south to start, then they turned calm and finally came up lightly out of the NNW.   

Another fairly tough day today.  We worked some areas on the south end of the lake for salmon and pike.  We saw a few pike but no solid hits.  John said he had one hit, which may have been a salmon.  Some nice carp were cruising the flats and it looked like one boat was taking advantage of the fly-fishing opportunity.  I'm not sure.   But it's a great chance to nail a 20lb+ carp on the fly, and something I should do one of these days, but I'm too busy.  

Laker jigging on the south end remains poor.  There are a lot of fish around, but I think the murky water makes them negative towards the jigs.  People are catching some salmon and browns casting from shore at Clute Park.   Eleonore had one nice follow from an average (18") brown trout near there.   

We worked up the lake doing some casting for pike and salmon.  John had a good hit on an alewife colored tube jig.  I thought he hooked a nice pike, but after a great fight and some good runs I slipped the net under a 25" wild lake trout.  It came out of around 15' of water with sunny conditions and relatively little wind - go figure!   We kept it and it was packed with alewives.

I felt we could have scored on salmon or pike had we spent the entire time targeting one or the other, but I moved us around hoping to capitalize on the wind while we had it.   Without trying to sound like a broken record, I must say that I'm fairly certain things will pick up shortly with the warming conditions.   I expect good pike fishing and good salmon/brown trout fishing as the lake warms up.   Laker jigging action should pick up a lot this week. Time will tell! 

5/2/2015
Cayuga Lake out of Myers 5/2 PM

Got out with Mike at around 1:15 pm today.  He was a little under the weather so we decided to stay local.  We fly-fished and did a little bit of gear fishing for salmon and browns.   There's a lot of warm water on the south end of the lake and some warm water around the larger creek mouths.   The amount of alewives that moved in to the Inlet this past week was reportedly fairly staggering.   We have no shortage of bait on Cayuga Lake! 

Fishing was slow for us today.  We worked a lot of areas as thoroughly as we could by casting and drifting.  Some of our slow day was due to conditions changing (wind to no wind.)  But overall I'd say the fishing is fair and occasionally good when you find the fish, but they don't seem to be particularly abundant.   We never had a hit until the end of the day when Mike nailed a solid 4lb 10oz 21" salmon on one of his tube flies (the "Hooligan.")  It fought great, but we got lucky!  We saw a shorefisher get a silver fish as well.

I kept Mike's fish for dinner and surprise, it had a goby in its stomach along with the remains of a couple alewives.  It's great to see the salmon eating gobies.  Gobies do not have the concentration of Thiaminase that alewives and smelt have, so it's conceivable that a salmon that ate a lot of gobies would produce viable eggs and fry.  We can only hope.

There was a large group - at least 140 cormorants stationed along Cayuga Inlet near Treman Marina.  That's not good.  They are likely eating alewives.  Let's hope they don't find the newly stocked browns and salmon.

5/1/2015
Skaneateles Lake, Seneca Lake and Cayuga Lakes 4/29 - 5/1

I got a chance to guide full day trips on these three lakes over the past three days.  The only great fishing was on Skaneateles Lake.  Seneca and Cayuga were tough with a capital "T" as Dick Vitale would say.

4/29 Skaneateles Lake:  Got out with JD for a full day.  We'd been trying to coordinate a date for awhile and things finally came together with our schedules and more importantly, the weather.   He's a terrific fly-caster (most certainly in the top 5 I've ever guided.)  That made a big difference.  The plan was for me to show him laker jigging, some perch tactics and fly-fishing for trout and salmon on the lake.   We accomplished those things.

Thankfully, NYS finally re-striped the parking lot.  Hopefully that will alleviate the confusion this summer with vehicles parked haphazardly everywhere.   Conditions were calm to start and we worked on some laker jigging.  I jig this lake less than any of the other FLs I guide, so take it for what it is.  We found some fish in a few different areas and depths ranging from around 120' out to 150'.  I think we had some shallower too.  No hookups but a few were moving for the jigs.

The wind came up and we set up for trout on the fly.   It didn't take long before JD landed a LL Salmon just over 16".   He had hits and a few other momentary hookups from what were likely some nice rainbows.  A 16" rainbow was landed as well.   He even caught another 16" bow on a perch setup.   It was great seeing the seemingly oftentimes (in recent times for this guide) absent 15" to 17" bows.   

JD was able to get some perch, though we didn't have much time for it.   But we had a great day with beautiful conditions on the lake.  We even saw a bass moving up.  These fish don't let the 36 degree water slow them down!

4/30 Seneca Lake out of Watkins Glen:  I guided longtime client Rick and his buddy Dave, who was out with me for the first time.  Dave was hoping to get a salmon on the fly.  He's more of a stream fly-fisher, but was up for trying the lake fishing.  Rick wanted to learn the lake a bit (he'd never fished it) and was also hoping for salmon.   We came close, but no cigar.  With the calm conditions to start at 9 am, I showed the guys a good laker jigging area.  We marked a ton of fish and Dave had a couple grabs but no hookups.

Near the canal, Rick had a very nice salmon around 24" or so beeline for his stickbait, but no grab.  We worked a ton of areas up the lake and back down without seeing a single salmon.  Shortly thereafter, strong north winds played some havoc with our fishing.  One smallish pike grabbed our salmon offering, but that was it.   Very tough day and I kept the guys fishing hard despite some very gusty north winds that made the lake quite choppy.

5/1 Cayuga Lake out of Taughannock:   After having such a tough day and seeing the south end of Seneca Lake get whipped up by the winds at the day's end, I decided to move my trip today with Dan (another long time client) from Seneca to Cayuga Lake. Maybe it was a mistake, but one can never tell.  

We had the same weather pattern that we've been having all week long.  Calm sunny conditions to start and then a north wind around 5 to 8 mph starting around 11 am with higher gusts late in the day.

I had Dan start with the laker jigging, which showed some promise.  Again - lots of fish and some aggressive chases (on the fishfinder) but not a single hit!  People who think lake trout jigging is always easy really don't know laker jigging!  It can be damn hard.  

We worked a bunch of areas for salmon.  Off of one point, we had three different salmon show themselves for Dan's stickbait, but no hits.  We tried another half dozen areas without seeing any sign of life.  Eventually we wound up at the south end of the lake, where Dan had a few grabs but wasn't able to hook up.  One fish apparently hit twice - which is a salmon trait.   A kayak troller we talked to had landed two salmon.  The water around the lower part of the lake had about 1' of visibility.  These north winds really concentrate "the murk" even though in some areas the water underneath is quite clear.

We went back to our "good area" and reworked it with no sign of fish.  We called it a day without landing or solidly hooking anything - Dan's arm was bothering him.  The first pure skunk of the year.  I went out after the trip and fished for 1/2 hour.  I had one large fish (a salmonid) of some type chase after my tube jig, but not hit it - or if it did I missed it.  

Water temperatures in the main portions of these large lakes are still in the mid-to upper 30s.  These are the same temps we dealt with during winter(!) over the past 15 years, with the exception of last year. Many fish still seem dormant or sluggish.  This week's temps forecast to hit the 70s and 80s should quickly reverse this. It's been a very interesting and challenging year!  There are nice salmon in all three of these lakes.  Between Seneca and Cayuga Lake, neither lake really seems to have better fishing than the other.  Some nice fish are being taken in both lakes, but I don't think the numbers are great.  They are OK.

 

 

 

 

 

4/26/2015
Cayuga Lake out of Long Point 4/25 and Seneca Lake out of Geneva 4/26

4/25 Cayuga out of Long Point:  Guided Jim and his buddy Mitch for a full day.  It's always great seeing Jim and his enthusiasm on the water is always contagious.   In a nutshell the laker bite was tough today.  The fish were moving pretty well for the jigs and we found a lot of fish, but they are still stubborn.  Water temps are still very cold (more like March temperatures from 2005 - 2013.)  So the fish are somewhat dormant.  There are very few signs of baitfish moving in, but the two fish Jim landed were loaded with alewives from different year classes.  One or two gobies were also in the stomachs.  A few other hits were had, but it was tough.   Best action was deep - around 130' give or take, though we tried out to over 200' FOW and were marking fish out there.  We were the only boat out of Long Point today!   We also found quite a few fish just N. of Dean's Cove. 

4/26 Seneca Lake out of Geneva:  Ditto for here today.  I guided Matt and his wife Barbara and things looked good to start.  Matt nailed two nice lakers in short order, but despite some hard chasing fish, no more fish were hooked.  A few more hits were had.  We tried a lot of different tactics.  Angling Zone friend Jimmy nailed a couple beauties here yesterday.   The fish here are starting to feed as well, but the two I cleaned today didn't have nearly the amount of bait in them that the Cayuga fish had.   Keuka Lake would be a good bet for more action, but I'm interested in seeing how Seneca and Cayuga pick up, cause the size is there. Very few boats were out.  A couple perch guys and a couple trollers was it. 

Once the switch gets flipped on these lakes, the action will be great.  Things should set up beautifully this week.   Can't wait!

4/23/2015
Stream Guiding Available

I posted this on my homepage, but for those of you who click right on to the reports:

A fair number of inquiries come my way for stream guiding and fly-fishing instruction. My great pal Eric Mastroberti has just started a guiding business focusing on area (CNY) streams for trout, carp and other species. He also guides lake-run fish and has access to some ponds. He's a class act and has been involved in angler education for over 10 years. He's also a superb fly-tier and his full dressed Atlantic Salmon flies are a work of art. Check out his website and guiding at:

http://streamflowflyfishing.wix.com/flyfishing

4/19/2015
Seneca Lake out of Watkins Glen 4/19

Got out for a full day with Brian and his friend Puneet.   The goal was to fly-fish for Landlocked Salmon but the guys were up for whatever might offer the best action.  It was tough deciding whether to fish Seneca or Cayuga Lakes, but I thought the wind forecast might set up better for Seneca.   We started around 10 am with a bit of laker jigging.  There were loads of fish around but as has been the case for the past couple weeks they weren't too active.  Brian did manage a 20"er in fairly short order in around 140' FOW.  It had a small lamprey attached, but overall was in good condition.  

We tried a bunch of areas for salmon and one nice fish followed in a stickbait on a point. We didn't get a good look at it, but it was dark and large.  Maybe a brown.  On the south end, Brian got hammered by a solid fish!   He played it expertly and after a couple jumps and some strong digging I netted a beautiful salmon - we kept it and it wound up measuring 26" and weighing 6lb 10oz.   Incredible first salmon and on a streamer to boot!  It doesn't get much better than that! We tried more laker jigging and Puneet dropped one.  Later, a 14" fresh wild rainbow was also landed (on a stickbait) and of course released.   

We haven't been encountering many small or sublegal salmon this season yet.   Earlier this winter my buddy Mike did get into some further up the lake, so they are out there.  It remains to be seen whether these Sebago strain fish are as widely distributed as we hope. With luck, there are plenty of small salmon scattered around the lake that we just aren't around.  Time will tell.  Great day and we have some terrific photos too.  It's been an interesting season to say the least.  Stay tuned! 

4/16/2015
Cayuga Lake out of Myers 4/15 AM + Lake Ontario out of Oswego 4/16

Cayuga Lake out of Myers 4/15:  Guided Peter for a 1/2 day AM.  He's been getting into fly-fishing and wanted to try the lake.  We did a couple casting lessons over the winter and he was itching to get out and put his skills to practice.   We met at 8 am with light winds which quickly calmed down to glassy conditions.   Not good for casting or fly-fishing on most days.   Peter worked on his casting for a bit and then we headed north to try and get some lakers.  He hadn't jigged them before and managed to get a hit or two and land one nice fish around 21".  Fish still seemed lethargic.  

Winds came up nicely out of the north and we worked a few areas for salmon.  The casting got better, but we never raised any fish.  Conditions were still pretty cold and the tribs were still pumping in water that wasn't more than a couple degrees warmer than the lake.  Late afternoon might've been better, but we had to call it a day so I could teach classes.  Water temps were around 36 or so if I remember right.  The laker had a couple alewives and what appeared to be a small goby in its stomach.

Lake Ontario out of Oswego Harbor 4/16:  I never made it out to Oswego last year - for early browns, summertime browns, lakers, bass - nothing.  This year I'm bound and determined to fish it on a regular basis.  I feel the lack of bait and harsh winter will make for hungry fish and great fishing.  Unfortunately last night my old computer was giving me some issues and it took me some time to straighten things out.  Then rigging and getting the boat ready made for a late night. My body decided to forego the early start and I slept in - turning off my alarm clock that was set at 4:30 am.   As I arrived at 10:45 am a boat was pulling out.  The guys told me that ice-out here was about a week and a half ago.  Trolling had been very good the past two days with today being slower.  But a combination of browns, rainbows, cohos and Atlantics have been caught.  The guys had landed a 10lb Atlantic over the past 3 days.  Even a few lakers up shallow.  No Kings yet for them.   Stomachs have been filled with gobies - no alewives.  It's similar to last year.

For me it was more of a Lake Ontario shakedown.  I fly-fished for 2 hours.  I may have had a brown following my streamer for a bit.  Maybe it was an illusion.  I spent a couple hours scouting the icy depths for signs of life.  I found what appeared to be lakers in around 150' to 160' FOW.   They were pretty lethargic.  I had a fish aggressively follow me almost to the surface.  No way was it a laker.   

I checked some areas west of the river for around 2 hours as well and had a good hit in around 20' FOW that I missed on a tube jig.  It hit as the tube was sinking and maybe halfway down - so it was probably a trout of some kind.  That was it.   The water temp was 34 out in the lake.  I had as much as 46 on the surface momentarily in some sun baked shallows.  The majority of river water was pushing 40 to 43 degrees by the end of the day.  The river was very muddy but the flume wasn't going out too far.   The launch still wasn't officially open so no fee but also no restrooms.  My guess is that they'll be charging this weekend.  I love the kind of exploration I did today and can't wait to get back, though I may have to fish some Landlockeds and Rainbows first around here!

 

4/12/2015
Seneca Lake out of Watkins Glen 4/12

I did a 1/2 day trip in the AM with Tom and his friend Gordon.  They do some trolling and copperlining and wanted to learn the jigging.   Tom wanted to go out of Watkins for this trip. I'm not a big fan of the lake trout fishing on the south end of Seneca Lake most times of the year, but from March through early May, it can be decent, though rarely if ever on a par with Sampson or Geneva.

Today looked like a much better day than yesterday so we gave it a shot.  The south end was still quite murky and downright muddy from all the rain we've had lately.   On the positive side, when we started at around 7:45 am, we marked a lot of fish and bait.  A lot of boats were also out.  Probably 20 or more boats perch fishing and the Finger Lakes Trollers were having a tournament as well.    The laker bite was tough today.  Fish moved a bit for the jigs and a few hits were had.  Gordon landed a dink around 16" that was a wild fish.  We released that one. 

The good news today were the salmon that were in as deep a water as I've seen them this time of year!  Tom landed 2 beauties - both around 24" long and in the 5lb range.   Gordon lost one that had to be a class or two up from the ones Tom got.  Gordon's appeared to be over 25".   The salmon were in deep water - water around 120' to 150' deep and were suspended.  Both fish had lamprey hits and the first one we landed had a small (4") lamprey attached to it.  Both fish were in pretty good condition.  I realize that these depths are fairly routine for trollers, but I've rarely had to fish that deep for salmon this time of year (and of course I've had my tough days and skunkings, so it makes sense that a good number of these fish could be quite deep.)

That was it for the trip.  Afterwards, I grabbed my fly-gear and a couple spin rods and did some exploring up the lake.  I found salmon/trout to be as well distributed as I could hope. I didn't catch any, but they were around in the gin-clear water.   The calm conditions I ended up with aren't great for catching salmon, but they are fun for exploring.  I also saw fair numbers of pike and even a couple carp.  We'll be back for the pike in May once the season re-opens.    My friend Mike was amongst the masses working the perch.  He nabbed some good ones but they were being picky.  

This next four weeks is THE time for salmon, whether on the fly or via gear fishing.  Very few fish have moved up, but they will in droves this week.  Then we'll see what's out there. I'm very optimistic regarding our salmon fishing.  I think it's going to be good.  

4/3/2015
Cayuga Lake out of Long Point 4/3

The ice just melted off in the Long Point harbor last night. All ramps were open today. Got out with my pal Mike around 11 am for lakers and some perch. The good news is that there are loads of lakers on the deep flats between Long Point and Levanna. Plenty of fish and some bait out to over 170'. The fish are still fairly lethargic. Some of this may be the full moon, but I think most of it is the cold water temps after a super cold winter.

We tried a lot of different tactics. Late in the day some fish got active for our jigs. Mike nailed a solid 28"er. We each dropped a couple fish. We had zero action on perch, giving it about 2 hours. We worked as far north as we could, but there's still ice on most of the northern portions of the lake - basically just above Farley's Point and northward.

I was excited to see what was in the stomach of Mike's laker. It was full of bait - mostly alewives, but one giant goby! It was over 6" long! So these fish are gobbling some big bait. I expect to see lakers here get bigger and bigger. We'll see what happens.

4/1/2015
Cayuga Lake out of Myers Point 4/1 PM
Got out with my buddy Eric from around 1 pm till 7. We checked on salmon fishing in a bunch of areas. Water temps are still very cold - around 35 to 36 degrees and our winds weren't what we needed. Our day was slow. Eric did manage a rare rainbow trout on a streamer off of Taughannock. The fish was a wild 14"er. We checked the flats north of Millican. There are a lot of lakers up there, but during the hour or so we gave it, the action was slow. 120' to about 150' held plenty of fish. I'm looking forward to getting back out once we get some steady wind and warmer weather.
3/31/2015
Seneca Lake out of Watkins Glen 3/29 PM

Guided Mark for a 1/2 day PM.  I didn't think the conditions would be that great, but his availability is pretty limited so we decided to go for it.  Tried some laker jigging to start and it was slow.  Fair numbers of fish were around from about 120' to 150'.   Salmon fly-fishing was what we planned on.   Mark had one solid hookup and a great battle from a fish that was in the 22" to 23" range.   He got most of the fight on his Go-Pro, but unfortunately the fish got off after it ran under the boat.   We'll be back at them soon!

Laker jigging is fair to good on Cayuga.  My buddy Mike got a few solids on the same day.  H2O on Cayuga was around 33 degrees, Seneca was 36. 

 

3/27/2015
Seneca Lake out of Lodi Point 3/26

What a brutal day!   Wow.   I talked to my buddy Mike last weekend and Thursday was looking to be a good weather day to go out.   We had forecast highs in the upper 40s.  Day by day the forecast for nice weather deteriorated.   On Wednesday night it was an 80% chance of rain, with up to 3/4" predicted.  Mostly coming after 1pm.  By Thursday AM it was 100% chance of rain with most of it due after 11 am.   Should've said screw it, but we took a chance and went early.   Most times I say "when in doubt, go out" but once in a while it bites you back.  Yesterday was one of those days.

We had a 20 minute window of good looking salmon conditions.  No action there.  Then the winds died and rain started in.  I found out after an hour or so that my Mustang Suit isn't especially water proof.   The dampness and rain was relentless though I didn't get too wet, just a little damp.   No bonechill, but it reminded me of a few nasty days in my youth of being out in the boat.   We tried some perch fishing without any sign of them.  I did manage to hook a solid brown trout on my perch rig which was pretty cool!   But that was it.   We tried a few drops for lake trout but the rain made us pretty miserable. 

The coolest weirdest part of the day was the static in the air.   I've been out around lightning storms and had my hair standing on end, rod tip buzzing and fishing line going skyward.   That's the time to get off of the lake!   Mike had never seen the bit with the line, but today we got to see it.   You could have cut off your lure and fed fishing line into the sky and watched it rise.   Scary, but this isn't really a time of the year we see much thunderstorm activity, though we did hear a rumble or two.  Anyways, we cured our cabin fever.   Looking forward to getting out again soon.  Water temps are around 35.8 degrees.

3/19/2015
Seneca Lake out of Lodi Point 3/19 PM

Guided Ali and Mike for what wound up being a long 1/2 day starting around noon.   The launch at Lodi is open (and has been all winter from what I've heard.)   I thought we'd have a great shot at some good laker jigging today.   The bite wound up being tough for us.  We worked our way up towards Sampson and in our first area Ali landed a 20" laker and missed another.  We marked some fish but they weren't hitting well.  It definitely felt like the fish were still fairly dormant and in a winter pattern.   It's not like Keuka where they feed heavily throughout the winter!    We marked fish from around 140' to 180' and beyond.  I think the north end would be a good bet, but I wasn't going to make a 20 mile+ run, since we wanted to do some salmon fishing further south as well.   The jigging should improve by the week as the days get longer and the fish move in.

We worked some other areas for lakers and salmon and Mike wound up getting one hit that was likely a salmon, but that was it.   Tough day and we fished hard and covered a lot of water.   Only a handful of boats were out - mostly perch anglers around Sampson that ran from Roy's.   Perch fishing on Seneca these days is a far cry from the 1980s, where you'd see boats on many different points throughout the lake.  Now the schools are fewer and fished harder.

3/14/2015
Seneca Lake Reports 3/11, 13 + 14

Seneca Lake 3/11 AM Shorefishing:   Met my buddy Mike at one of our favorite shorefishing haunts.  The lake was flat calm and sunny, which in wintertime is pretty much the "kiss of death" for shore activity.   So we fired up cigars and waited for the wind to come up.   We fished for 2 hours or so with no action.   I had to teach classes, so I hit one other area also without any action.   Mike stuck things out and managed to lose a fish in the first area he fished.  In another area he caught a couple dink salmon as well as two legal fish - one around 16" and one over 20".  

Seneca Lake 3/13 out of Severne Point:   Drove the boat down with my buddy Eric and we checked out the launch at Schamels.   Some guys broke the ice this AM and around 4 boats launched, but by the time we arrived at 11 am the marina area was frozen solid again!   So up to Severne we went.   Wind conditions were pretty darn brutal and perch anglers were coming off the lake in fairly rapid succession.   I'd guess the winds were around 18 mph out of the south with 3' and some 4' waves.  It was nasty.   Some perch anglers did well in the AM, but fishing had reportedly slowed.

We launched and made a slow, rough, cold, nasty, wet run, checking out some nearby areas.  It was the kind of run most people wouldn't do and I rarely ever do with a client onboard, but it was my pal Eric and he's used to it (ha ha.)   It was a bit too windy for enjoyable fly-fishing, so the spinning gear came out.   I landed a pike around 29" or 30" in short order on a tube jig.  It was not a very healthy looking fish with some weird slime (shades of 2008) and lamprey hits.   But it fought pretty well.   Eric had a hit from a salmon and I had a follow from one around 18".   I then hooked and lost a decent salmon.  We fished a bit more without any action.

We hit a few more areas.  I hooked a very solid fish on a white bionic smelt and type 4 sinking line.  After a few strong runs and some dogging Eric slipped the net under a chunky 25.5" brown.   Eric had another follow, but that was it for us.  Water temps were around 36/37.   The canal was up around 38/39 and 40 in places.   Tough fishing with the windy conditions.  

Seneca Lake 3/14 out of Severne Point:   Kicked off the 2015 guiding season with longtime clients Ron and Matt.   They nearly always pick stellar days to go out (way in advance!) and today was no exception.    The forecast didn't look great with rain called for but we barely felt a drop.   Anyways they had ice-fished Keuka in the AM and met me at 12:30 at Schamels, and of course it was frozen so we drove up to Severne.

I thought conditions were perfect for targeting pike with only one more day til the season closes, so that's what we went for.  The first area we fished is an inconspicuous area that I like a lot.   Matt nailed a healthy looking fish around 30" on a swimbait.   Nice start.   In our next area he caught another good fish on a spoon.  Then Ron hooked up on his X-Rap.  But this fish jumped!  After a few runs I netted a 25.5" brown!   A beauty and Ron's first on the Finger Lakes.  Success on the trip within 2 hours!  I was stoked.  

We worked some other areas for pike and trout/salmon and Ron and Matt both hooked up simultaneously on salmon.  We landed both fish - a 23.5" and a 24" Landlocked salmon.   The last area we fished was a pike area and it was lights out pike fishing.  The guys hammered them with fish following at times on nearly every cast.   Another dozen or more solid fish were landed to 36".

Most pike are looking reasonably well.  There are quite a few lamprey scars but no sign of the nasty slime (apart from our first fish) on any of the others.   I think a fair number have already spawned.  

All fish went back in the lake today.   I'm not seeing any real concentrations of salmon, but they appear to be very well dispersed throughout the lake.   That's what was expected of these Sebago strain fish and perhaps that's what we'll get.   I'm looking forward to when the water starts warming up and these fish start to get more concentrated and aggressive.

 

 

 

 

 

3/7/2015
Keuka Lake Ice fishing 3/6 out of Keuka State Park

Met my buddy Mike at the State Park around noon.   We set up to jig lakers. The fishing was a bit slow for us today.  Maybe we missed the hot bite or weren't in the best areas but we worked for our fish.  I wound up with 3 nice lakers and had another 3 close to the hole.  One that hit right under the ice!   Mike landed 2 and also dropped more.  He was using a makeshift laker jigging set up and wasn't real happy with the softer rod, feeling that he couldn't get a good hookset.   We worked from 100' to 170' and found fish - albeit one or two at all the depth ranges for the most part.  We'd first drill a hole, then typically have some action, then have to move on.  But we never had a lot going on under us.  Fish didn't seem too aggressive. 

An angler we talked to that had fished early in the AM landed 20 to 30 fish.   We were a day away from the full moon, so it's likely that lakers are feeding heavily at night.  We also met 3 anglers heading out after dark to give it a shot!  I'd love to know how they did.   The Bluff Area would be a great choice right now.  The Bluff on the Penn Yan Arm maxes out at around 120', so there's no need to go deeper.   It's loaded with lakers and would be my pick (as an avid open water Keuka Lake angler) for finding larger numbers of hungry lake trout.  I'm guessing I might give Keuka one more shot this winter through the ice. 

I think this heavy icefishing pressure on Keuka's lake trout is a good thing and will hopefully help to keep this large population of fish in check.  We'll see come open-water season if we see some more bait or bigger fish.  
 

3/4/2015
Cayuga Lake Shorefishing 3/4

Hit Milliken Station for an hour and a half today with fly-gear.   (I'm just going to call it that instead of AES or Cayuga Operating Company from now on.  It's too darn confusing with all the name changes - but for those who don't know, I'm talking about the power plant.)   Nothing was doing.   A few other anglers worked it as well.  My buddy Mike drove up a ways to fish there and he stayed the whole day.  Conditions changed a bit for the better and he persevered, landing a couple solid salmon and pike.   

It was very cool being able to see the "influence" of the warm water throughout the area.   I knew that fish could detect it from a long ways away, but in my boat I could never measure much of a water temperature difference for more than a little ways around the discharge and bay.  But clearly the influence of the plant goes more than 2/3rds the way across the lake, up the lake 2+ miles and down the lake probably the same amount.  That's changed my perspective on things a lot! 

3/1/2015
Ice fishing?! Yowsa - Keuka Lake 2/28 out of Keuka State Park

 

It looks like we are official with the coldest February on record here in Central NY.   No surprise there - I'd never seen week after week with lows below zero and highs sometimes also below zero until this year.   People ask me fairly often whether I ice fish or not.  I usually go once or twice a year with my buddy Mike - generally for bluegills on small lakes.   Those are the only reports I don't post, since parking areas are limited and it really has nothing to do with the Finger Lakes.   But I used to ice-fish a lot from around 7th or 8th grade onwards.  I was never particularly adept at it.  We'd set tip ups for pike or pickerel and jig for perch.   No electronics (like nearly everyone back then.)  No real shelter.  Just stand or sit on a 5 gallon pail and let the nose run.   Look for the anglers and set up not too far away, or just wing it. I bought a cheap Frabill shelter and I also did a little bit of icefishing when I moved up here in 1995, mostly at Whitney Point Reservoir.

My buddy Mike convinced me to get a good shelter this season and I broke down and bought a nice Frabill.  They are great for tall people.   On the way back from the boat show I stopped in at Bass Pro Shops and grabbed a Jason Mitchell Mackinaw stick - the last one they had.   I want to catch a laker through the ice.  I also want to jig a few pickerel.

Angling Zone Friend Jeff B. has been into icing lakers for years and on a whim I texted him and found out Keuka Lake State Park had been hot.  No surprise there.   So off we went yesterday.   My buddy Jarrod, his 6 year old son Max, Jarrod's buddy Eric and myself.   We got set up around 11:30/Noon and fished away.  We wound up doing pretty well once we got things dialed in.  Jarrod nailed the first laker then Eric caught a beauty (with 6lb test.)   I started hitting them good as well and I have to give my Vexilar FL-18 a lot of credit. We wound up with a nice bunch of fish.   I was able to help young Max (doing all the fishing himself) get a nice fish around 23" or better.   Our best action was around 140' to 155'.

There was a good foot of clear blue ice on the lake.  I could see my jig come up 7' or 8' below the ice without even looking in the hole.  It was great seeing the pale lakers coming up towards the hole doing their usual twisting and pumping.  Eric's fish took some nice runs, which was cool.   Jeff B. told me that the Keuka Lake fish load up with bait in the winter.  He wasn't kidding.  Nearly all of our fish were spitting bait.   My theory is that the well-fed lakers on Seneca and Cayuga Lake don't need to feed as hard in the winter.  They can live on their fat reserves.  These Keuka fish need to keep eating!

My setup was pretty basic.  The 34" Jason Mitchell rod was great.  I could jig in my shelter, the tip was soft enough not to pull the jig away from the fish and there was plenty of backbone to fight the lakers.  It's a well thought out rod.   I went with an ABU Orra Casting reel loaded with the smoke (black)14lb  Fireline so I could see it against the ice.  The Fireline Crystal probably would've been fine in the shelter.  (I brought a reel set up with it, but didn't get to try it.  I will next time.)   I used the usual 12lb test Seaguar Invis-X Flouro leader.  Stout stuff - I don't think lakers are line-shy and stout gear makes it easy to get the fish coming up through the hole till you can grab him or just pull him through.   Also ice can nick line and why take any chances?   A 1+1/2 oz jighead with a white Lunker City Swim Fishie did the damage.  Spoons and bladebaits are also working good.  These fish aren't that picky.  They are hungry!

On an added note, one angler I spoke with landed a 17" Landlocked salmon.   If you want DEC to keep stocking salmon and browns in Keuka Lake and you fish there, make a point of signing up for the angler diary program.  They aren't seeing much interest or success with these species.  If that continues to be the case, you may see these stocking programs discontinued.   The same angler told me of a 19lb laker iced yesterday on Canandaigua Lake!  That's a BIG FISH!  

 

 

1/24/2015
Cayuga Lake Shorefishing 1/24 PM

I live fairly close to the "Cayuga Operating Company" plant aka Milliken Station/Cayuga AES, so it's not a big deal to drive over to check it out.    In the wintertime I can usually see the stack from my living room window.   They've been generating power over the past few days, but today they weren't doing much.  I still gave the pike fishing around 2 hours or so with the 8 wt. fly-rod.

Nobody else was fishing when I arrived around 3:15 pm.   I casted a very heavy unwieldy Clouser Minnow and within 10 minutes I landed a solid northern pike around 28" or 29" long.  Great fight!   But that was it.   Casting was tough with the north wind - at least at certain angles.   The lake is as low as I've seen it.   Just ridiculously low.   I remember winters in the early 2000s and late 1990s where we'd have to wade under the docks to get over to the point.  Now it's easy to wade OFF of the docks.   Big difference and I'd like to know why the DOT or Canal System or whoever controls the lake level feels that it needs to be even lower than it was 10 years ago - and it was low back then.  I'd call the pike fishing "fair."  

1/23/2015
Seneca Lake shorefishing 1/23 PM

Finally got out for a little bit of shorefishing. Just like with guided trips, I try to pick good days. If the conditions aren't optimal or at least pretty good for what I want to do, I do something else - either fish for a different specie or stay home.  

I spent just over 2 hours fly-casting on Seneca Lake and landed 2 nice salmon.   The first one was a 19"er that hit a large deceiver.  I was going to release the fish but it destroyed its eye on the big hook, so that fish was kept for dinner.  It was full of scuds, which is often the case this time of year around certain parts of the lake.   The only other hit I had felt like a lake trout when I hooked it, but was slightly more frantic.  I saw silver and then landed a really nice looking clean salmon that was around 23.5"/24".   This one had a slight hookscar (meaning it'd been caught once before.)   This one I released.  

It can be tough wanting to put a salmon back in the lake.  They do taste great and they can be hard to catch/find at times.   I could've gotten 4 nice meals at the very least out of the larger salmon today!   A lot of us enjoy eating FL salmon.   I certainly do!   With the lakes' overall productivity being considerably lower than some of the heyday years of the late 1980s, 90s and 2000s, I think it's a great idea to release most of the healthy fish.  If you catch more than a couple salmon - whether trolling, casting, fly-casting or using live-bait, you are likely going to have a fish or more that are deeply hooked, scarred from eels, bleeding badly or just worn out.  Keep those fish and try to release the healthy ones!   We all love catching salmon but I just don't get the feeling that there are a ton of them to go around.  It isn't like lake trout.  The poor salmon runs in the tribs - regardless of rain, should tip anglers off to the fact that most of these fish aren't making it to the spawn.   Not that it matters ecologically, since they don't reproduce much at all, but my point is that most of these fish are getting harvested before they run the tribs. And trib fishing for salmon is something a lot of people really look forward to.  It's a great component of our local fisheries.    Just some food for thought.

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